I just read this blurb somewhere and I laughed. "Macaws: These birds have longer tails and are colorful. They can have incredibly long lifespans if you take good care of them. [b][u][i]They are vocal and at times not ideal for apartments.[/i][/u][/b] They need plenty of cage space and lots of toys." At times not ideal for apartments? Hello? Do you know how loud these guys can get and how much space they require? Especially the loud part. Oh god. I've dealt with Scarlets and Blue Golds and when they get loud [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHTc603tUhQ ]OH GOD[/url]. And the same site didn't mention the voices of cockatoos...I mean I'd hesitate to get a conure in an appartment, nevermind a freakin' Mawcaw. And not to mention most outlive their owners. If I ever own one I'm adopting an elderly one.