[@21308] Well, in my honest opinion, though many say otherwise I wouldn't recommend a parrotlet for a first bird. Like, at all. Quieter, small, and less messy (the least messy birds I've dealt with!) put aside, they're still closely related to amazons and unlike cockatiels with cockatoos, their big bird attitude is definitely still there, and their beaks aren't anything like a tiel or budgie bite. Budgies, linnies, and tiels are great first time birds (I feel bourke's are a little too skittish and asocial for most first time parrot owners), but I would hesitate with a parrotlet. You definitely could get it as your first but I'd recommend getting to know a few and doings lots of research in advance. The only birds I'd say absolutely no to for first time birds are mawcaws, cockatoos, grays and amazons. I love parrotlets to death but it makes me really sad seeing people advertise them as first time bird choices (Same with green cheeks) because I don't believe most first time owners are prepaired for what they entail. I've heard many first times struggle with even budgies and their the most popular and commonly kept parrot in the world, and considered one of the easiest to care for. And oh my gosh, I'd love to meet your goat one day if you get them. I'm really, really fond of goats. Maybe it's a Kurdish thing.