[quote=@Fabulous Knight]
[@Cyclone]You all need to play something [i]really[/i] creative.

Like Dwarf Fortress. You know you want to...
[/quote]

Vanilla Dwarf Fortress? You have good taste, but like BBeast you're still doing it wrong!

Try modded Dwarf Fortress; specifically I'd recommend Masterwork. While sometimes clunky it's pretty fun too.