[quote=@Ashifili] In a world where you don't die even if you're killed, the best way to make someone suffer is to not kill them. Just bring them to the point of death and leave them in a dark hole somewhere in Liserranna. Really though, surely there's a way to enforce discipline without threatening to kill them~? [/quote] We could always beg Rune to bring their domanatrix character into this roleplay xP Then again, some people may like it... even though she's strict as hell over the rules.