[quote=@Dawnscroll] [@Mardox] To an extent. In Logos's eyes though, he's already earned the title through great deeds. To walk the Road is an painful act, and he carried with him the memory of the Old so this world could be New. He has walked the In Between. It's no carving dad open with a scythe, but it's nothing to scoff at. As far as he's concerned, you lot are a bunch of petulant upstarts who have no idea just what powers your using. Of course we'd be even in a direct fight. Hell; were designed that way. But the Immortal game is never won through direct conflict. The reason the gods scheme is because it's the only challenge we have left. Sides, I now have MATTER to use in this reality. Physics is in full swing, and Logos has plenty of tricks to use now. [/quote] I'm not denying that Logos has tricks. As for the walking the Road and Old Universe stuff, the other gods don't know this and they don't see it as actually helping the New Universe become a thing any more than they helped. As for memories of the Old Universe, we all have them and here's a little about mine: [hider=What Vakarlon Really Is] Vakarlon is the result of a good-hearted mortal charlatan being force-fed the essence of a Dark God. Hence the two sets of memories. [/hider]