[quote=@Cyclone] [@Kho] If we really are saying 13.5 billion, it'll be weird since we're still making oceans and the like. And that's to say that after so many billions of years, Slough has only really made the Deepwood? I'm in favor of calling it 13.5 billion at the end of next turn, after major geological work has been done and right when we start making (somewhat) intelligent life. [/quote] Then where would you say we are year-wise now? For Vec's sake