[quote=@TimeMasterX] The idea of Superman killing doesn't bother me when it's done well but, as I saw it, they didn't have any build up to the act and, this is my problem, it was unnecessary. Clark had Zod in a headlock, there were at least 3 ways I could think of that he could have saved the innocent bystanders without killing anyone. Equally, the body count wouldn't bother me if they brought it up. You had a scene of Superman and Lois making out in ground zero, after the big fight it just goes to Superman and the military, my problem was that there was no sense that he'd failed. For the record, sorry about the long post, I just never get to have this conversation with anyone haha. [@Eddie Brock] Do you listen to Fatman on Batman by any chance? :P [/quote] Like I said Superman has been on the job for literally one day when all of this goes down. He has Zod in a headlock, yes he could have done something differently. Think about it though, in that moment when everything around him is going to shit he didn't have time to think of another option. The problem with everyone's view of Superman is that he is infallible. When he is written that way is when he is written badly. I LOVE THIS CHARACTER but at the end of the day he is just a kid from Kansas who happens to have incredible powers. That is how he sees himself. This shows that even Superman is prone to mistakes and human nature. Take him out of the equation, what would you have done in that situation? It isn't like he chose to kill Zod on a whim, it shows that it hurt him. He screams because he killed what could be the only other Kryptonian in the universe. It shows that it hurt him. No sense that he failed? The entire plot of BvS is dealing with the fact that he failed. They were setting this up. Lex casting and Doomsday appearance aside I think they had a good plan of what they are doing. Did you want another thirty minutes of the movie showing him mope around? BTW this is all said with love. I like having this discussion as well.