[quote=@Frengo]

Think I just got confused. In my mind bronze suddenly = copper. 

*Epic cackles manically*
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MWAHAHAHAhaha...ha...ha...um, yeah so I actually mixed those two up a couple of months ago myself. I cannot comment on this. 

[@Frengo] Feel free to push a bit (or alot) against Thunderspeaker and his followers in Five Stones. Just expect a big counter-punch if you desecrate the holy shrines. ;) My preferred outcome is for Thunderspeaker to be taken down quite a few notches, and the value of technology demonstrated.