[@Divinity]Okay, given our bouts of disagreement on things, which is carrying on a tad much in private message... I figure it'd be best if we resume our debate publicly so that the judges may witness our claims. So far, my argument has been that I don't see the logic in the clone bomb. In PM and IC you've described it as a powerful cryogenic explosion, which I'm interpreting as a huge drop in temperature. Now you've stated that because kinetic force is expelled, and it's cryogenic, Myron won't be able to control his ice any more... but I don't see any reason whatsoever that entails Myron shouldn't have control over his ice, just because it's now [i]extra cold[/i]. By using cryogenic magic, Corban is mostly stepping out of the boundaries of his skillset and in to Myron's, whereas simple 'conjuration' in a basic form shouldn't allow him to overpower another mage's control over something they've dedicated their life to... when Corban only has a single word explanation on his own control over ice; '[Conjuration]?' It states he dislikes this domain of magic, so I'm unsure how the 'likes' and 'dislikes' terms have any sway over his control, if he's able to use such advanced spells such as this. So somehow he obtained the powers of cryogenic freezing, made them in to a bomb inside a clone, created the clone in his image with absolute perfect features (without illusonry, as you said), and controlled the clone perfectly whilst travelling underground at the same time... all in a 1-2 second timeframe in-between shooting a gem, and dashing/digging underground. Although I figure this [i]might [/i]be possible, it's the reason I've complained that I should be allowed to use Myron's high-tier fighting set. (And why I've unlocked his rift and gravity runes for this fight, which I generally save for higher tiers.) Now I'm honestly accepting of most of the things here, but all at once, and the effect nulling my magic? Now that I don't see. Corban's bracketed skills are still much of a mystery to me, as well, and I assume your cryogenic magic stems from one of them. If I need a judge's ruling on one thing, it's to see a full list of what Corban is capable of within those bracketed spells. Honestly from the beginning of the match, I had assumed those spells meant he simply [i]understood [/i]how the magics worked, not that he had adept control over each of them. So now that I'm stuck with them, I'd like a synopsis to work with. You stated much of his spells are inspired by d&d, but even d&d requires individual spells be shown. Also you mentioned that Ishtalle is capable of spells not written in Corban or her own sheet... I must be able to see them all, please.