[quote=@Kho] Meh, Europe under Rome and Europe after is a tale of technological, social and civilisational regression that did not begin to fade until the 12th/13th century. Of course, other parts of the world bloomed during this period, but I speak of Europe. Dark or partially cloudy or very sunny is irrelevant, what is relevant to my point is the regression in Europe which undeniably occurred. [/quote] The Middle East was pretty baller back in the Dark Ages days. Spain was too, when the Middle East came to say hi.