Wowzer! Exit! Hey! Glad to see your input! I hope that means your planning to join back into the revamp once it comes to fruition! But I also was not aware of a third group. I do however remember the quadruplate that were employed by Cypher, I just don't remember them being elementals. But we all helped to create this vast world we have come to know and love so it makes sense that we may have forgotten bits and pieces. So now that we have Exit here as well, hopefully, some changes need to be made then in regards to how the conflict went down between PL and Cypher's Group and unless someone jumps back in to tell us what happened to their character(as Exit did), we need to decide the fates of the other characters. And if the roleplayer doesn't come back to reclaim their character, the character could always just become an NPC, if they survived of course. But Exit, are you confirming that Cypher Vale has died? And if so, this mysterious third group you spoke of, could be the new antagonist, since I don't remember them ever truly coming to fruition. I'm the one that created the two children, Libby and (forgot his name), and I had originally intended for them to the spies(kinda forced into it) for Cyphers group. However, I did NOT create this mysterious third group Exit spoke of, however, the idea isn't a bad one and could be easily moved over into this revamp. And I think there were two doctors. PL had Tobias. And I think Cypher's group had their own NPC doctor. But I'm not 100% sure, so don't quote me. Lat I remember tho, Tobias didn't die. But all that stuff on Cypher and Clo. Nice! I'm glad you came back to wrap up what went down for your two characters during that time period. Also, I remember the Radiation guy kind of being the catalyst that started the entire conflict between C-Group and PL. I wonder what happened to him and where he is at this point, that is if he is still alive. I really hope we can rally at least most of the old gang back so they can tell us where their characters are at. NOW....In terms of my own characters. The two kids, Libby and (whats his name), I'm not sure what happened to them after I left the RP. I think someone else took over them for me. But I can't remember who. Sun, I imagine he is dead. I want him to have perished in the battle. Though once this starts back up, I may make a reincarnation of him. We'll see. Eliza and Geoffrey both integrated into PL from Cypher Vale's group I think, since they were both very weary of him from the get-go. I really liked that aspect of their relationship with him. They relied on him, because he provided protection, food, and shelter, but at the same time, I were very uncertain about his motives and he seemed very, devious. And Cypher knew they didn't really trust him. I would of liked to have explored that dynamic more, since they were the few that didn't have that Zealot mentality like most of Cypher's followers had. If I remember correctly, Kaiden, the boy with the hawk, had that zealot mentality, a sharp contrast from my character Eliza. Though, I'm not completely sold on playing 5 yr older versions of them, so I may just keep them around as NPCs. But once this takes off, I'll definitely be doing the story recaps, like I used to do. I think I mentioned this before, but if we are gonna revamp this RP, I think we should include a new role. From what I remember, we had... Mother, The Humans, The Blessed Ones, The Warriors, The Harpies, The Gatekeeper, and what I didn't know, The 3rd Unknown Group(That the two kids were from). From What Exit said, I think Cypher's Group is no more. I think we should get rid of the Gatekeeper position, and replace it with a new role. Perhaps, The Half-Dead. People who died, but came back as the Dead, however, they are a bit different because they still retain their memories and speech capabilities and they can behave like regular humans, but...they have a 'hunger' to eat flesh that they have to suppress. Some live in what civilizations remain, but they are kept under tight watch and most hate them for who they are and what their innate cravings want them to do. But they have the added bonus of being unable to be killed, unless their brain is destroyed of course. And since they are still technically dead, The Dead don't attack them. But thats just an idea. One I think should be limited to only 1-3 characters. Sorry, that was ALOT. More than I thought I had to say. LOL