[@Natsucooldude]The Young Kurts are humanist (sapientist), liberal, democratic nationalists. They believe in strong, equal state ruled by law. Justice and order are prised above all else; it is no coincidence that the Young Kurts are overwhelmingly Ascendant. Extremists fight for universal suffrage. Far more popular moderates want to install a land-based voting system. You don't want the [i]wrong sort of person[/i] telling you how to run the country, after all. And some -- some are just Nationalists. They don't pine for the Mutlaginate; they were ruled by [i]Liszka slaves[/i], for God's sake. They want Kurtish domination. They are popular with the peasant Kurts that aren't with the Ozgers. Either way, the Young Kurts are made up of the rich, land-owning classes -- majority Kurts. Ethnically opposed to the slave races. [These guys are a mixture of Turkish Sipahi and Polish Szchlata, and are backed by many peasant Turks and the rich Persian/Arab merchant families] The Ozgerssaries are united. They are organised. They are soldiers. And they want land. The Young Kurts have land. As soldiers, they know only one way to get what they want. And they [i]are[/i] soldiers. Their hierarchy is forced into meritocracy. It must be. They could not have won, otherwise. It is partially this that made the Ozgers realise that no democratic state would care for [i]them[/i]. So they went further. No state, no property -- no Ascendancy, either. Low church heretics, all. The peasant will own the land he farms, the tools he farms with, the maxivine he reaps. But this is the conflict. Peasants. They are peasants. Not workers, not city-dwellers. Many Ozgers support the plight of factory workers, and many factory workers fight with Ozger guns. But others hate them. The insect peasants hate the (seemingly) wealthy Kurt urbanites, while the Kurt factory-workers fear the loss of their whole livelihood. [These guys are based on the German Peasant Rebels, Hussites, Kurds/Greeks/Armenians and some Persians/Arabs].