[quote=@DarkwolfX37] Okay, so let me try to elaborate then to avoid that. Sex: Based on chromosomes and reproductive cells, as David put. Gender: The traits entwined with sex in a given society/culture. Gender Identity: The only thing someone can actually affect: What gender someone wants applied to themself/does apply to themself and the traits with it. So the confusion between gender and gender identity is an obviously common one and is a small part of the problem with SJWs. The one between sex and gender is since common usage they're interchanged, sort of like how "ironic" is used to mean something it doesn't actually mean. I literally never thought of them being separate somehow meaning it is or isn't okay to have a different gender than sex. The problem with thinking that it's not okay, though, is that gender can't be controlled because it depends on the given society/culture. Boy to us and boy to ancient england or modern japan or any other society are different things, like how all thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs. I'm not sure if that'll make sense to anyone but me but meh. The day a scientist who isn't a psychologist or sociologist using gender in a study I'll concede. It'll never happen because they're different things. Also, I like (genuinely like, not as in the facetious way. It's funny to me in a good way.) how you used "definitions change" and "typically needs to be noted" on the same side of a point. Also the "societal reflects biological" is HIGHLY debatable, though I think I'd mostly be on the same side as you in that debate. [/quote] I totally get what you're saying. It's probably not impossible for a culture to form (although it hasn't) that has, say, five or six genders but two sexes. But from David's and my Christian perspective, God created two genders and two sex which correspond, and so culture and society are technically irrelevant. That's why "gender and sex are different is a fact" seems like a loaded sentence, even though I know you don't mean it to be.