[quote=Theodorable] Wernher; very well thought out civilization. The way I see it -- the Graal have realized that mindlessly invading entire other solar systems worked initially, but now maintaining how garrison armies and fleets and the logistical costs of maintaining infrastructure are becoming a large problem. Now they are attempting to put in place pro-Graal governments in lesser civilizations; basically anyone who would be willing to listen to the Graal and support an autocratic regime, most likely a military leader.So your civilization can play the opposite side of the pendulum for fear from want and freedom of determination, no?Would you fancy some shared history, Werhnher -- at least in the last 50-100 years of the game sake so we can start off in a ideological war? [/quote] I wouldn't mind, not at all. I'd say the Crayvens would probably belittle and infantilize the Graals a lot, not seeing them as a menace or an enemy but rather simply as 'People who do not understand' the universal truth of peace they hold. While they'd probably do everything in their power to avoid war I think there could have been an encounter with the 6 million war veterans that will gladly go to war on every occasion. So while the Crayvens are a race of pansies, I'd say this combined with the stories they tell about Zuhlo and the Great War they'd realize that they are not an enemy to be underestimated non the less. Weather this traduces to efforts for peace or preparation of a large scale surprise attack is up to you.