[quote=@Vec] ... That's interesting but it closely resembles the dragons from the previous itteration of the RP and I'd like to stay as far as I possibly can from that design :hmm ... [/quote] Ah, right. Sorry, I didn't know. Hmm...you could make them solitary scholars who jealously hide their research and expertise. You might be able to trick them, bribe them, or otherwise convince them to give you some wisdom if you were clever enough.