[quote=@Kho] Hmm, how can we have war when we have no properly organised states yet? The greatest wars, as far as I can see, would be tribal wars. Mind you, I haven't had time to read the latest ICs, but taking into account Legion and Vestec's contributions from what I can see OOCly, there'll be more massacres than all out wars. [/quote] Easy, Lif will organize an empire We're working with foresight in mind.