[quote=@Fabulous Knight] [@Kho]Cities existed in the stone age/with stone age tech. If we want to limit civilisation, we should -- limit civilisation. [/quote] Just saw your edit. I have no idea what your point is ^^' We have yet to develop stone age civilisation at all, or fully explore stone age tech. Cities existed in the stone age, that's fair enough, our hain have yet to discover fire and live in huts. Humans have yet to domesticate any animal. How are they going to build cities? Perhaps the hain, with their domestication of the golems, could build stone homes, but nothing much beyond that. And as stone age civilisation and tech develops and we get, at the most, city states, they still won't be Empires.