[quote=@Fabulous Knight] [@Kho]Cities existed in the stone age/with stone age tech. If we want to limit civilisation, we should -- limit civilisation. [/quote] No no no, Cities are a cooper age thing, I mean, how will you have cities when the populations are still nomad and under the effect of seasons? The 3-5 hut Hain villages we have now is the limit of the era unless there is some massive intervention by a god (see Vestec's horde) as far as I know no race has yet discovered how to farm and how to domesticate animals, even tribes in the depths of the Amazonian forest used to farm cassava.