[quote=@Double Capybara] No no no, Cities are a cooper age thing, I mean, how will you have cities when the populations are still nomad and under the effect of seasons? The 3-5 hut Hain villages we have now is the limit of the era unless there is some massive intervention by a god (see Vestec's horde) as far as I know no race has yet discovered how to farm and how to domesticate animals, even tribes in the depths of the Amazonian forest used to farm cassava. [/quote] Many posts make reference to Hain villages on the coast. Fishing is and was a common and easy way to sustain a large population for a long time without farming. ...I think that the Hain can at least harpoon fish on crude rafts or dive for crustaceans in shallow waters?