[quote=@Muttonhawk] [@Lugubrious] Us outside of the US can't help but be curious about US politics for three reasons: 1. It's broadcast EVERYWHERE. 2. The state of the US tends to dictate geopolitics and the world economy by virtue of its sheer bulk. 3. It's basically reality TV at this point. It's only natural that plenty of people will start to form opinions based on what's broadcast, which may not hold every candidate in a virtuous light thanks to the broadcasters. Personally, I have more issues with the structure of the system than the candidates themselves. However, even if I did have an opinion on the candidates, it's not as if I'm a voting citizen of the US. All this gas-bagging that we might do is just that. [/quote] I disagree with you on the second point. We're unarguably more conservative than many countries in Europe; we follow your lead, not the other way around. I look towards Europe as the forecast for what America will be like in 20 years. I should have been born 50 or 100 years ago; liberalism has taken root and has become something that we can't stop any longer. Socialism, multiculturalism, excessive globalism, feminism, and all these other -isms seem to take root in Western Europe then spread here, so I find myself with very good reason to observe France, the UK, Sweden, Germany, and the like as a prediction of what America is soon to become.