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I disagree with you on the second point. We're unarguably more conservative than many countries in Europe; we follow your lead, not the other way around. I look towards Europe as the forecast for what America will be like in 20 years.

I should have been born 50 or 100 years ago; liberalism has taken root and has become something that we can't stop any longer. Socialism, multiculturalism, excessive globalism, feminism, and all these other -isms seem to take root in Western Europe then spread here, so I find myself with very good reason to observe France, the UK, Sweden, Germany, and the like as a prediction of what America is soon to become.
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I think what he means is the stock market/exchange. Not the government. American stocks are literally the center of the world economy. That's all the cents I'm going to throw into this conversation, though.