[quote=@DarkwolfX37] No I mean by us in our irl isolated universe with no starting point of another to work from. Like if we literally us can't currently understand them because of our lack of grasp of how universes can be balanced or lack of shared imaginations about it then they couldn't exist in MR sorta thing. Sorry is that any clearer or did I mess up? [/quote] Except we very well can grasp how our own universe functions. You'd have to violate laws of logic and the autonomy of reason, which can only lead to the collapse of Existence, or at the very very least make our universe an anomaly, leading to a world of chaos and uncertainty where our characters couldn't even be communing. It would have to be on a different Scale for a significant number of universes with different physics to exist. [quote=@DarkwolfX37] Also this david. [/quote] What about it?