John's gaze lowers as he says, "Mimic really overestimated how much of Plastic Man's regeneration factor Collin had. Long story short, Mimic froze Collin then shattered him." He looks back at Kat, pain obvious in his expression and continues, "When I began training to be a hero, I knew on some level that one day I might lose a friend. I just never thought that it'd be a teacher that caused the death."

Ben grabs a simple bowl of oatmeal and sits at a table before asking Katherine, "So Kathy, do you mind if I call you that? How did a beautiful girl like you end up with a dope like Jack?"