[@Lord Wraith] [hider=More BvS spoilers, still.]Just because Superman was [i]equally[/i] poorly characterised doesn't excuse the fact that Batman was too. If anything, it speaks to how badly Snyder and the writers misinterpreted what people like about Superman and Batman. I wasn't a huge fan of Man of Steel but it struck me as a "serious" (or "realistic) interpretation of Superman, not a particularly grim of dystopian one, whereas I feel like Snyder has flitted away from serious towards grim to excuse making a "Dark Knight Returns"-esque film. The problem being for me that it's not [i]enough[/i] to simply say: "Hey! Batman are Superman are dicks now because... bad things happen!" You have to actually convince me that these bad things happening would make Bruce depart from the man he was. Does a poorly-written two minute conversation with Alfred and a shot of a Robin costume convince me Batman would suddenly start killing? No. If Jason [i]and[/i] Barbara didn't send Bruce off the edge in the comics, you're going to have a Herculean task to convince me that anything would.[/hider]