[quote=@Lord Wraith] Honestly I'd say Batfleck is one of the best Batman we've seen on the big screen. Still lacking in the department of World's Greatest Detective but otherwise it looked and felt like Batman. [hider=Spoiler][hider=Spoiler] Have to say though I don't really agree with some of the above spoilers or how much people are arguing that Batman does break the rules. Keaton and Bale both do the same over the course of their movies and nobody batted an eye. [/hider][/hider] [/quote] [hider]Keaton and Bale maybe killed 5 or six guys each. Batfleck easily killed 30-40 guys with indiscriminate pleasure in this. Considering how willfully he kills, it makes no sense that Joker is still alive and kicking in this universe. But even ignoring the characterization that turned Batman into the Punisher and continues to depict Superman as an insufferable dick, the movie seems to have been put together by someone who's never seen a film before, let alone made them. Editing was nonsensical, writing was sophomoric, and it was flat out DULL. It's a terrible, terrible film. [/hider]