[quote=@VKAllen] Oh, also if you shout now it would be fine as it doesnt take much to yell. I will count that as what happens after you spotted them. [/quote] ok, great, can you put a note in to that effect at the start of the round so we possibly get some advantage all up in here? And one more... series of questions: does a turn have to be taken in the order you outlined? Or could I do the weapon action first (though I guess it wouldn't necessarily make a difference too often)? And if I have an action and a bonus action, could I do two more perception checks to try and work out where the last few bandits are?