[quote=@IncredibleBee] "Hold his own" is a bit flexible. Coincidentally, Musashi liked flexibility. What it does varies depending on the skill in question. The skill does not allow him to just brute force his way through things, because why would use use a rough sword that's a horrible idea. It does mean that after gaining info on a technique or better yet, observing its use, he can determine gaps and weaknesses in its use. By figuring out a work-around, he can force the opponent into where he personally shines: direct combat. Admittedly, this does rely on my own ability to find gaps and weaknesses in a NP. And I guess I'll tone STR and END down by a point each. Whatever. [/quote] Instead of pontificating around it, give me codifications. Let's use the example of Gae Bolg, Anti-Unit heartstab. What would he need to do to figure out how to "counter" it and what would said counter consist of? Both of them to C. [quote=@Moonman] So what I'm getting from this is that a hokey half-assed summoning can create a hokey half-assed version of a Servant, that is still tangentially connected to the original. Given how Musashi is apparently going to be summoned with a hokey half-assed ritual, I'd like to it would fit the bill to a certain extent. [/quote] See my post. Either way it's irrelevant since I said Musashi was fine.