[@Vilageidiotx] It wasn't to avoid conversation as a whole. I just don't like getting into politically binges when that ISN'T the point of the thread. And its not. :P

I don't think all taxation, or regulation is evil. I want to say only sith deal in absolutes because the argument people keep making are, "OH EVERYTHING" and that's not what it is at all. But it's simply a fact, that are tax system is beyond fucked and it does hurt businesses just starting out. No, you're not owed a successful business. But the government shouldn't be the reason your not successful. With subsidizing and picking winners and losers. The government can do just that. And as for the environment, you making me think of Cap'N'Trade in Europe. When the government tried putting massive control on pollution, and how well that all turned out for them. Regulation and restriction don't automatically mean better business and that seems to be what your arguing in favor of and if we have such conflicting opinions, I don't know if it can really make much of a difference continuing this. That was not the only things that the article or the links within mentioned, so once again I have a feeling like I'm sort of talking to a brick wall...

The point of getting rid of some regulation, is allowing smaller businesses to compete, increasing competition help to avoid monopolies. Saying having less would somehow equal the same outcome is borderline absurd.

If you disagree that are tax system is horribly done. Or that we don't have incredibly stupid regulations that need to go. I don't think its worth getting into this. (even if I didn't really want to in the first place.)

I just woke up, so I don't exactly feel like taking this to pages length discussion. (I honestly don't care enough to write thousands of words on such a thing when I sort of already know...) XP

http://www.businessinsider.com/ridiculous-regulations-big-government-2010-11 Just to save myself some time, here's various regulations that are dumb.

#2 Business Privilege License... For Bloggers
The city of Philadelphia now requires all bloggers to purchase a $300 business privilege license.  The city even went after one poor woman who had earned only $11 from her blog over the past two years

#3 Funeral Director License for Monks
The state of Louisiana says that monks must be fully licensed as funeral directors and actually convert their monasteries into licensed funeral homes before they will be allowed to sell their handmade wooden caskets.

#5 D.C. Tour Guide License
If you attempt to give a tour of our nation's capital without a license, you could be put in prison for 90 days.

And there's things like needed a license for your child to have a lemonade stand...Like seriously...if your arguing that environmental/various restrictions aren't hurting small business. Or that its a myth that we have too many stupid regulations. I frankly don't even know what I can say...So I'll just say we clearly have differences of opinion here. :3

As for Bush/Obama and what you said. Only thing I'll say about that, is I agree insurance companies and how healthcare is, is not great and it does need to be fixed. But what Obama did, and I assume you mean his socialized healthcare tax/bill. And saying that's the greatest thing?

Strongly disagree. "Obamacare" has been a big political failure. I know my parents, and my friends all tried to get charged more for less coverage than they were already getting. http://www.investors.com/politics/obamacare/obamacare-failing-to-make-care-more-affordable/
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/healthcare/260948-obamacares-predictable-collapse
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-karr/why-obamacare-will-fail_b_8586192.html

So, yeah. I have a feeling it will go faster if we agree to disagree. Haha. So people can get back to bitching about things in peace? Could we spare the common folk and like PM each other instead? I don't want this to keep going on ad infinitum. xP

[@Shorticus] Well there's as saying that "you're so smart your stupid" I'm not saying education necessary equals sheer intelligence (or gives you common sense) because how college's teach nowadays are horribly bias, it can actually teach you something incorrectly. Proving the old adage "practice makes perfect" wrong. But the average person calling them stupid, I find it very ironic for them to say that. When their is real criticisms you can lob at them both.