I did say that I'm fine with getting rid of red tape regulations. It really comes down to which line of thinking we trust when we hear it brought up. When I hear a politician or businessman bring up wanting to get rid of regulations, I don't think they are talking about the regular red tape regulations because I don't trust them that much. I assume they are saying "Please can I stop paying my way in taxes, and can I start dumping lead into your children now?" There is a history of these people using ridiculous laws as a cover to get rid of important ones. This is why you feel like your talking to a brick wall; because we're both arguing from completely different assumptions about what the words we are talking about means. When you say taxes and regulation, you are thinking about a few bad ideas that do come up. When I say taxes and regulation, I'm thinking of the good ones that hold the system in place. 

I do have to point out that all the regulations you innumerated there are on a local level. That's a whole other bag of worms. I think there is something mathematical to that; when you have so many local governments in the US all desperate for cash, a few are going to pass some fucked up laws. Like "The Law of Average Greedy Motherfuckers" law or something.

And like I said about Obamacare, it is broken. I agree. I said that too. I definitely don't like Obamacare in its current form. I'm a single dude, in my twenties, and I pay $121 a month for healthcare despite the fact I haven't been to a hospital since I was 18. And for you Europeans btw, what I am paying is considered a bargain since I'm a government employee and get to pick from a dozen odd plans instead of the one or two most people are allowed to chose from. So yeh, I'm not happy with the current situation either. Why I said I respected him for it though is because, the guy did try to make a working version but was forced to hack it apart to get it through congress. I respect him is because he threw the broken version out there instead of retreating back to square one. He's forced us into a position where we'll have to socialize it now, because as it stands forcing people to pay outrageous payments cannot go on forever and the outcry against will bring us into one of the socialized systems soon enough. With Sanders getting people pumped up for the Scandi system, I could see the Republicans accepting the German system Obama was trying to build once he leaves office. So yeh, in the short term I agree, Obamacare is a failure. But in the long term it's a brilliant piece of policy in that, by making a failure, he's forced us into a situation where the one way forward is his. And since the best way for a President to impress me is to wrench the country to the left, even if it is just in one piece of policy, I gotta like the guy for it. 

But if you want to stop talking politics that's cool. I actually enjoy this, certainly more than all those cringey MRA/Feminism things that keep popping up in this thread. Politics is fun as fuck yo. But if it makes you uncomfortable, we can just stop it here.