[quote=@Vilageidiotx] Yeh, you get rid of the government and those with property become the government. There ain't no utopia's, and every system is going to be chalk full of people trying to fuck you over. That's why I pull to the left anymore, because if imma be fucked over, I'd least like some consolation prizes in the bargain. [/quote] I could argue additionally that we're a government for the people by the people then it'd be proper if we all bit the bullet and admitted to the horse-shit that happens because we allowed it to happen. But that doesn't apply here at all because no one actually goes out to vote enough. But that's also a whole other plate of worms.