[@Vilageidiotx] It wasn't the youtube videos that you mentioned. It was literally anything. Don't go lying now. X3 And salty? Are you sure your not secretly just being a very very bored troll? :P One step up from 'u mad bro?' One of your posts, was a straw man argument about evil bigmart polluting the lake...and a WAY too long thing about trickle down economics (something that doesn't exist.) There is a reason, I posted links because I'm aware some people MIGHT know more about things than I do. And your feeding me a lot of b.s quite honestly...People that debate positions do not just look up every piece of evidence by themselves without siting sources, or providing more evidence. XP (or one step further. Doesn't do any damn research at all.) I wasn't even bringing up Canada to say, they want privatization, I literally don't know how that started...>.> Which is why I said your stats meant nothing. Also it's not an overblown argument, people actually believe that by a depressingly large margin. Also, at this point I swear your provoking so I keep this boring conversation up. -.- Also, are you bringing up the average person pays 8,000 as negative thing? Or that it is actually not the case? I assume the former since your saying "We pay TWICE as much." Well under their system we'd be paying a lot more than that...just by average population. Because an absurd amount of people pay no real taxes, which may be another underline reason, why we have a larger bill. But as I already said, and won't get into it any farther because this is just pointless. I agree to disagree, on socialized medicine.