[quote=@Athinar] [@Fallenreaper] [hider=For you][img]http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/tamakomarket/images/2/21/An_sticking_tongue_out.png/revision/latest?cb=20130204205432[/img][/hider] xD [/quote] *points down to Tearstone* [quote=@Tearstone] What she said. [@Athinar] Are you talking about Native American shamanism, Tibetian shamanism, or South American shamanism, or Peruvian shamanism? Are you taking into account other native spiritual traditions like Hawaiian Kahunas, or what about African Voodoo & Hoodoo? [/quote] As Tearstone stated, there are many varieties which opens the door for a wide selection of how magic is done and created. My current stance, though I worry it might've been misunderstood and so I'm going to clear it up, is this: While I prefer unification myself, it's a preference but I can work around. Personally, I see VAT's suggest as a way for those who want to tie in their magic together as possible. But also a way to explain their variety, see who has something similar, or use someone's system and merely build on that existing magic with the player permission. I'm not stating there should be some hardcore rules over what magic is or the rules they follow, which if I did, it's not my intention. However, I'm pretty sure if someone uses magic then we all have a vague idea at least about what that includes despite [i]how/why/sciences[/i] behind the thing. [quote=@Dedonus] 3 pages of OOC since I went to bed that's not just silly banter. :hmm Let me see if I need to respond to anything (I saw your mention, [@VATROU]). [/quote] Personally, I don't think so as it seems we're all trying to come to a clarification point and slowly getting there. This is an example when individuals come together and rare cases when something that several people understand differently is coming to a final understanding that resolves most issues. It also doesn't end in needless drama or flaming toward each other.