[quote=@Fabricant451] lol if you think gta made money because of offended people and not because it had the words 'grand theft auto' on the box [/quote] Okay, now there's several angles I could debate you on this, are you implying simply because its a well known movie/book/game the sequel or repeated sequels will automatically do better then the original? Because that's provably false...And since someone else thumbed that up, maybe their is some kind of incorrect assumption flying around that name is ALL you need... Mass effect 2 sold far more than Mass effect 3, (4.07 Mil to 3.08 Mil) mainly because of its controversial ending. Likewise Dead Space 2 sold more than Dead space 3 (Well over a million to 605,000.) Due to people not liking the micro-transactions put in the game by EA. But even good games, can still not do as good at the original. Like despite I can't find exact numbers, dark souls has made more money than it's sequel. (hell it made less than demon souls according to this...) http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/693332-dark-souls-ii/71519188 So, saying "Oh aren't you so woefully ignorant thinking it needs to do anymore than use a brand name OF COURSE IT SELLS MORE! HA HA HA!" Is very wrong...So, lol nothing. Also, secondly are you trying to say things that feminist/SJW groups have tried to do on the internet hasn't spectacularly blown up in their faces? To result in the opposite effect of what they tried to accomplish... They tried to lower the sales and ban both Huniepop, and Hatred. Which sales only got bigger and MORE popular. Nearly entirely thanks to people whining and bitching and stirring up controversy. No one would of even fucking heard nor cared about the mediocre, Hatred if it wasn't bitched about so much. And don't even get me started how well Huniepop did because of them. Even in non-game related acts, like telling people to unsub youtubers, which only sky rocketed their sub count instead. So, going back on topic, do you ACTUALLY think the controversy behind GTA 5 DIDN'T get it more talked about, automatically giving it some extra hype from people complaining about it being too violent? Are you actually saying you believe that, or are you maybe defending something that shouldn't be defended based on your biases? Well facts don't care about biases. (GTA 4 6 mil to GTA 5 54 million. A SLIGHT JUMP!!!) This part isn't directed at you alone but I wish this fucking topic would seriously die, because its clear how woeful ignorance is a serious problem, but its something so obnoxiously depressing to talk about. Can people please stop bringing this topic up for the love of all that is holy? ...I give you a cookie. ;-; Please!