LET'S GO AHEAD [quote=@Crimson Raven] Okay, re-reading. Summoned- no apparent time limit, so could be instantaneous.[/quote] It's a Noble Phantasm. [quote] No apparent cost- how much is comsumed? What does it take to summon it up?[/quote] It's a Noble Phantasm. [quote]Destroyes Magic- literaly insta-killing/destroying anything done by gods, before the age of man, just with its mere precence. (I think heaven and hell qualify)[/quote] Giving it too much credit. [quote][i]Effectivly immune to the actions of heroes from before the age of man[/i] Okay, so...fuck. Herc-level defence.[/quote] Not what that means. [quote]Only can be defeated by man though human efforts. Oh, looky here. A...weakness? So...uhh a Master with a gun could destroy it? Good news but... Stronger, faster, more durable then most individual servents, by an order of magnatude. Tell me, when was the last time bullets ever bothered a Servent? When was the last time the [i]Master[/i] took out a [i]Servent[/i]? They can't. Physicaly can't.[/quote] Because Heroic Spirits aren't the collective sum of mankind's imagination, right? It's not like heroes kill monsters. [quote]No mention of controllability.[/quote] It's not controllable. [quote]No mention of its intelligence, no mention of it's appearance, does it bite? Claw? Spit? ...Poop?[/quote] Reread. [hr] You're overestimating Rider as a Servant, and the beast as a threat, by far. I want you to calm down for a second, and think about this. I haven't allowed Masters as strong as Dead Apostles for balancing. I banned Nursery Rhyme for balancing. I have said, several times, that this beast has weaknesses easily exploited by several of the Servants here. Technically speaking, regardless of whether they're fighting Pellinore with the beast or Pellinore with the castle, I can think of ways for every Servant in this war to win, and that's if they don't even do the rational thing and coalition. Do not let your innate perception skew your decision-making. Think about what this means. Think about what I've said. Think about what the Servants everyone has can do. I'm going to be completely honest: When you insist that something is broken when I have explained that it is balanced and that every RPer here has a way of killing it with minimal losses, it is an insult to me as a GM. Please, take a step back and do as you said you would do. [quote=Crimson Raven]Edit: These are just my opinions. If GM says so, then that is end of story. I wont argue further. [/quote]