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Oh, it gets even worse, if you miss it, you can still get the weapon, but it is in a chest that has a 20% chance of being there, and a 10% chance of containing the Zodiac Spear (the weapon). Do that math, and figure your chance of getting it.

Where else XII went kinda wrong, was that loot drops are RNG based, and some of the best weapons, armor and rare materials can only be found by killing one rare monster over...and over...and over... and over... Until you get lucky and it drops. Those mosters ALSO usualy apear on a RNG based chance, and some of them are tucked deep inside difficult and or lengthy dungeons. The best heavy armor (helm and body, separate monsters) the best ninja sword, the best dagger, the best pole...ugh. To this day, I still have not managed to get them.

Ah, I have heard of those. Never played one myself, though. What platform do you play them on?
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Wow. That almost reminds me of getting that. Damn. Gold. Chocobo in FF7. And I believe you HAD to get it in order to get the Knights of the round Table in order to actually kill big baddies like Sephiroth (I could be mistaken. It's been a long time.)

And that's too bad, they are pretty great games. The older ones like Symphonia were only annoying cause the AI was dumb (But hey... I'm sure we've experienced bad AI in most games in some point or another). 

I believe they are currently on the Xbox and PlayStation systems. I think some are also on steam.

But I mostly play them on PlayStation

Besides Vesperia which I got on xbox360