After a quick pause looking at Ri'vashi, Gallus stuck out his lower lip, glanced away, and turned his hand slightly. "A fair thought, to be sure. Could you propose that after this meeting, Miranor?" Gallus turned to the werevulture present, "I trust you'll be needing volunteers for your team in the first place. If more than you can use step forward, we might still make use of them if they think they can do it." Gallus turned his head to the map and let out a breath through thin lips. "Right then. What does that leave?" Gallus recapped, gesturing to the map. "The saboteurs fly in and jam the gate open, give a signal, then the mist can come in-" Gallus swept his hand over the map, "-cover the area. We advance and surround the walls with ladder teams. A vanguard rushes the gates, werevultures run harassment. If they get the gate closed we bring a ram forward, but that would cause a lot of losses. We take the gatehouse, then the walls. We advance the rest into the walls and the courtyard, and then try to assault the keep." Gallus took a slow breath in. "The last thing I want to do is overcomplicate a plan, but this does not feel complete." [hr] After it was made clear in her silence that Ahnasha was not convinced, Fendros spoke up once more. "Irenya," Fendros said severely, but not threateningly. Irenya's seniority appeared to no longer hold him back. "If you don't want to leave things how they were, you know what needs to be said."