[quote=@Weird Tales] The titans are based on the original team from the silver and bronze age, which is pretty nostalgic for me minus the exclusion of wally. Again i think they're testing the waters since fans don't buy as much and 2nd and 3rd string characters always seem to get canceled. I highly doubt Tim would survive this modern era of comics canceling [/quote] The 2nd and 3rd stringers do get cancelled, but so do books that SHOULD last like Robin: Son of Batman. With the adult Titans books DC started trying to *fix* their continuity by saying a villain stopped the original Titans from forming altering history as it should have been. Tim had quite a successful title in Red Robin and it lasted thirty issues or so leading up to the New52 relaunch, where the character was turned into shit and was the first to have a retconned story that was retconned yet again claiming he was never just called Robin as the New52 Teen Titans #1 suggested. Lately DC has been pretty antsy to just cancel a book or hire less than stellar creators on titles they don't put much faith in. Just as an example, Rob Liefeld is the reason Hawk and Dove was cancelled once he took over the writing on top of art duties during the begiining of the New52. DC's response to this clusterfuck of a creator? They gave him writing duties on Grifter, Hawkman, and writing/art on Deathstroke. He basically got one title canned then was given three others to basically do the same with. Grifter started getting good again when he was off the book but got cancelled before it ever had a chance to get an upswing. Hawkman fell victim, and Deathstroke was canceled but given new life later on with top notch creators. DC's main problem is they hire people who don't have any passion for the characters they're working on. The good creators, who usually DO work on a 2nd or 3rd string heroes or titles first, once their potential is in print... they get shipped to Superman and Batman books. Jimmy Palmiotti did wonders with the Freedom Fighters in a couple different mini series as well as the monthly, and solo minis for newer spins on the characters. He was later put on a higher profile book, Power Girl, and now he's on Harley Quinn. No reason was given as to why DC decided to stop publishing stories featuring Freedom Fighters characters like the Ray, Human Bomb, and Black Condor... EDIT: A story was actually planned to crossover Grifter and Hawkman with one of the Superman titles that would have the three of them facing an alien enemy. It was shot down once the creative teams on Grifter and Hawkman changed up, probably because they didn't want Liefeld anywhere near Superman. I for one would have LOVED that crossover, as Grifter is one of my all time favorite Wildstorm characters. ~KL~