[quote=@clanjos] [@knighthawk] ...How did you get into Shadowdancer at ECL 6? It requires 10 ranks in Hide. At level 5, you can barely cover the 8 ranks in move silently. Anyway, yeah, interested. Considering a ratcatcher who's getting into adventuring because he can either DEFINITELY die of plague while catching rats or PROBABLY die of being murdered in a dungeon crawl. [/quote] Pathfinder shadowdancer, not 3.5.