I still think retiring the entire Harrier fleet just like that was a bad decision. Also, you wrote French aircraft carrier[i]s[/i]. As of right now, the Marine Nationale only has one aircraft carrier, the Charles de Gaulle, despite the official doctrine calling for two. The CDG is a mighty fine ship (perhaps the best in Western Europe), but I wonder if retiring/selling the Clémenceau class carriers was such a wise decision, considering how they were both adequate carriers. I hope the Foch (now called the Sao Paulo, in Brazilian service) gets used well, as it will always have a special place in my heart since my great uncle has loads of stories from when he served on it. I mean, the Clémenceaux were only built ten years before the Invincible classes, and the Illustrious is still used by the British... *grumble grumble, rant rant* [quote] thingy about Angel 1-8 and Checkerboard 2-3[/quote] Pay it no mind, I just had a sudden rush of shit to the brain.