[quote=@Saarebas] [@knighthawk] Hmm can you elaborate a bit more on there backstories? I am a bit confused on both of them. For Alabaster all I got from his story is that he worked in the mines and was then fired, I understand wanting a surprise for a character and can fully support it but there has to be a bit more to go off of. As for Vashoth I can get a bit more behind it as there is actually more to get behind, but his problem lies more within his actual classing. I really do like the idea of a more sturdy archer but I just want to make it clear that he may be able to out muscle some rouges he won't be able go full on brute force with an actually trained warrior, well most of them any, this is just to keep balance. Also what [@Leos Klien], he would be a Qunari if he fallowed the Qun, a Tal-Vashoth if he once fallowed the Qun but left it, and a Vashoth if he was never born into it. [/quote] Downside if you are trying to talk in secret, if no one else knows the secret, you look like an idiot...so now I look like an idiot. Basically he was an aeducan noble who would use his position to get close to people who were acting in corrupt ways (digging too deep) or marrying/investing in any other house they could get their hands on just for status or influence(spreading to thin). He never had to kill an entire family before (collapsing a mine) so when it did happen for the first time, he ended up being discovered as an assassin and had to leave his home before he could be arrested/exocuted. On the surface, people would pay him just as much to kill off family members as they would hated enemies. Yes I understand Vashoth sits in the middle between strong rogue and dextrous fighter.