[quote=@Frettzo] I personally believe a relationship is not really official until the couple has sex. I mean, the entire point of life is to have sex and eventually procreate, so yeah. Also, if a woman tells you you are not sexy enough for her, that means you've insisted far too much for far too long and after missing all the other cues that she wasn't interested, she had to tell you to bugger off. It used to happen to me in High School. Also, there's the possibility that the woman's just stuck up or somewhat narcissistic. It's mostly the first one, though. [/quote] High school and post high school is very different. Teenagers tend to be full of raging hormones. Plus I do disagree with the "official until sex" aspect mostly cause if your main goal is to simply get a fuck buddy, yes I am dropping that term, then you've missed the whole point of what a relationship is. A relationship that will last is one that is of close friends that want to stay together for the longest of times. All the relationships that I have seen that have lasted are the ones that follow this rule since they are thinking about each other, their feelings, and their hardships; not the next time they'll have an orgasmic time. If someone tells you that you are not sexy enough, then there is a higher chance that they don't care about who you are as a person and only want your dick/vagina.