[quote=@Techspert] You tend to go out of your way to stretch the interpretations of others' statements. First of all, there was nothing there about "needing" governments, but rather that they're inevitable. But I was hoping you wouldn't begin an argument over it so I didn't bother creating the foundation of an argument. [/quote] I'm not trying to create an argument, I'm just so fucking used to people saying "in anarchy governments will form" as if it somehow discredits anarchy. Like, that's partially the whole point for me personally, that new governments will form. Hopefully during the time before that the idiots will be killed off so it's actually a good government.