[@Fabricant451] It seems based on your criticisms of 10 are more just general criticisms of JRPGs in general, puzzles are 'clusters' in pokemon and dragon quest games too. They shouldn't get any special treatment. By the way you don't get ixion by walking in a straight line.

But if you are going to criticise 10 for being a JRPG, fine, I have plenty problems with that genre, but then it really just comes down to characters and story, I dont even like 10 but Auron has much more charm and depth than Hope, Fang, Snow and Lightning put together. Apart from the fact she's a rug muncher I don't see what makes Vanille any less annoying than Rikku. Sahz is OKAY big fish in a very small pond. But I'd still say Lulu and Wakka while somewhat basic are still more entertaining at least in terms of character concepts if nothing else.

What makes 13 shit is that its just as flawed as every other final fantasy game but its topped off with a terrible cast, awful pacing and generally less to do. If you dont like sidequests, towns or puzzles, then why the hell would you play a JRPG in the first place?