[quote=@Snagglepuss89] Crusader Kings is pretty amazing, although I personally put it behind Victoria II and Europa Universalis III for Paradox Interactive titles. As for Shogun, I wasn't personally too impressed by it, at least not compared to Rome and Medieval II. EDIT: Plenty of people love Shogun though. [/quote] [quote=@Snagglepuss89] Crusader Kings is pretty amazing, although I personally put it behind Victoria II and Europa Universalis III for Paradox Interactive titles. As for Shogun, I wasn't personally too impressed by it, at least not compared to Rome and Medieval II. EDIT: Plenty of people love Shogun though. [/quote] I was talking about Shogun I, there. Shogun II is, personally, my favourite Total War game. The strategic map is not the fucking trolling from Medieval where you had to randomly specialise cities to produce actual units or be an undefended morass that pays you, and the battle is an update from Medieval II etc. graphically and informatively but not damn sunset on pike-and-shot dullness. Anything is better than Rome's "please take many turns to produce this ONE unit" insanity. CKII is fun. I have got to oneday stop buying DLC. EUIV and Victoria II... so hard for me to get into at times. Victoria devolves into randomly trying to turn things communist or fascist for the hilarity.