[quote=@Techspert] Your argument is flawed because you begin with the assumption that humans can't be apathetic toward obstacles in order to prove that humans can't be apathetic toward obstacles. [/quote] True apathy would involve no care for the goal, which would mean they wouldn't really have a desire to achieve the goal and, therefore, no true goal in the first place. Caring for the goal means there is no apathy, and that's where the care for obstacles comes from.