[quote=@souleaterfan320] [@Legend] On your big post, if your parent orders you to punch someone who is ill in the face, would you do it? You arent breaking gods law in doing so, yet it is morally absurd. [/quote] Did you read what I sent to Dark? I answered that question exactly. No qualifications are ever put on honoring (respecting) one's parents. Obeying, on the other hand, has qualifications (see above), because they must obey God first, and then parents. But at no point does it say to respect/honor them if they have earned it. It's an all-encompassing command that does not fade. The humanistic view, on the other hand, claims relative morals, which might as well be no morals at all because it means nothing; without a static structure to create morality around, it will shift eventually anyway, so there's no room to call something absolutely morally right. Acts 5:29 "Peter and the other apostles replied: 'We must obey God rather than human beings!'"