[quote=@Legend] Shakespeare. He's the one who made up words. Except that's not what happened. His first language was Greek and he wrote in Greek. What language the books were originally written is isn't even a debate topic. People don't dispute this because there's nothing to argue about. No sources means no proof. And if you did have sources, are they peer reviewed? Because some random forum means much less than verified scientists and historians testing; you have a concept of what the past is that isn't shared by even atheistic historians. There are historical topics that are debated, but things like "Satan and Lucifer are different" and a majority of the things you dispute aren't even a topic. It's so virtually unanimous, nobody finds the need to argue against it. The New Testament was written primarily in Greek, the Old in Hebrew. This isn't something people disagree on. [/quote] So did one of the apostles in their sections. Don't remember which. Might have been Luke. It's a pretty apt parallel. Not if he's the one who wrote the first howevermuch of the NT. That's because people know the OT was in all sorts of languages. I'm pointing out to you that, even before the errors into greek, there was translation that allowed for errors. Then again, the stories were heavily altered so they'd be related by the Jews, so... Kinda a moot point to a point. Okay, dude. The topic is demonology. You're basically saying that no sources means no proof when discussing what happens in Harry Potter. You may as well be saying that I don't have any proof that Dynamo made X because I don't have a link to the post where it was stated. I don't know how few sources you're getting your "views of historians" on. Probably ones still saying that yoshua's existence isn't contested much? And seriously, the reason people don't debate over stuff like that is because [i]they're fucking historians, not theologians.[/i] Theologians have pretty much universally split down the middle on, for example, whether Satan and Lucy are the same person. It generally depends on whether they're christian or not, funnily enough. Yes, but I'm talking about the parts written first in the NT. The NT wasn't written all at once, and a lot of it came after other bits of it. You're even saying "primarily in greek" because you know that there were other languages used in writing the NT. That fact means that the translation of it matters, just like it matters when talking about the OT. Another fun thing about sources is that, unlike you, I don't specifically go after sources that share my bias for information. The meaning of Cain's story was by jewish sources and directly opposed the demonology sources I had, yet since it made more sense, I adopted it. You've literally said that if the bible said the earth was flat in blatant terms, you'd believe it over any evidence otherwise. Which is why I specifically avoid that topic anymore, because I don't want to convince you that the earth is fucking flat. Now kindly, shut the fuck up, because we know how this ends, we know this goes on forever, and we know we're both stubborn enough to keep going so long that we veer off into completely unrelated topics and argue for days or weeks over what could eventually turn into fucking plant science or something else equally unrelated, and we've been really good about not dominating the OOC with long pointless arguments, so [img]http://i.imgur.com/yAYigk7.gif[/img]