[quote=@Caits] [@dabombjk] um. How is bruce Kyle's grandfather? Just cause...Phoebe is only 22, and has no child XD i'm happy for him to be, but we'd have to work out a back story [/quote] It is more of an honorary connection. and [@katherinwinter] uncle could work as well but to me bruce is more of a father figure to dick so thought grandfather was more appropriate. I always saw dick having bruce as a father figure in his life for any scenario needing a father. but if you guys want me to change it I will I'm not super like bonded to the grandfather thing.