[quote=@RisenDead] [@Ophidian] I apologize if you think I am being heavy handed. I am just hoping to motivate people to get posting! Right now it's a rather small group of us despite the interest. No harm in trying to get everyone to get cracking is there? [/quote] Well, I'll be honest. It's stuff like that tends to make me want to *leave* RPG's. It's natural some players are going to drop out, it happens, [b][i]it sucks[/i][/b], but it happens. Trying to force it...well, from my end.. I've been sort of immersing myself in history on the Italian city states and the philosophies (rereading key parts of [i]The Prince[/i]) thereof I'm basing my vampires on-being told I've got to basically rush it through instead of doing a good job to get the piece of land I want is a bit....demoralizing. And then my other worry is people will end up rushing for pieces of land, instead of talking it out OOC-which could cause the bane of all RPG's, OOC conflict. But uh it seems irrelevant now.