[quote=@ClocktowerEchos]The main reason why I'm saying no to ships is that I'd rather not create extra work for people who actually have completed or semi-completed NSs. If you couldn't tell, Total War Warhammer and the WFB Army Tabletop are the major inspirations behind this RP, not Man o War.[/quote]First off, as you said there are no game mechanics here so whether it follows WFB or MoW doesn't matter. They are both part of the same Warhammer setting. Second, like I said, you don't create extra work for anyone. Only for those who are willing. It starts with Player X and Y talking about how cool a naval engagement would be and then both of them coming up with units to fight it out. If one side doesn't want naval battle then there won't be. Simple as that. Seriously, most players didn't even change their map claim so why would you think they'd take pains to add new units? Even if you'd introduce new naval ship creation guide no already "complete" NS would be likely to take effort in creating them...unless they are interested. Basically your argument to deny naval ships is founded on false beliefs. You shouldn't need to worry of them, IMO. But well, you're the GM. I am just sharing my thoughts with you. The least I want is to turn this into a fight. [quote]In my eyes, having ships doesn't benefit the whole as right there are only two people in the entire RP of a dozen plus who really want it. Am I wrong for putting the needs of the many before the needs of the few?[/quote]This is how every oppressive government is formed. Yes, not listening to individual requests so long it doesn't hurt balance or effect other players too much, is a bad approach from GMs. And as I explained your fear of allowing naval battles thankfully has no grounds. Your goat can eat the cabbage yet also keep it, if I should use this twist of proverb as a metaphor here. [quote]Even if there are others who wish to have ships they have yet to speak up so maybe I am wrong in the numbers but for now I am not. Its not that I'm against people being creative its that what you're pushing for isn't exactly whats consistent with most other people and their NS, needs of the many over that of the few and all.[/quote]Consistency is already the least which this NRP has. We have early medieval tech armies marching up against anachronistically dressed (armored) 19th century forces or even beyond. We have field cannons with explosive shells and riflemen as Tier 3 units while another army only has ballistas and crossbowmen at the same level. Do you think a few players having warships while others don't bother adding them is going to upset any kind of balance here? I don't see it. [quote]Also, don't lecture me on how to be a "good GM", that's subjective and I already know I'm a fairly shit GM which is another reason why I'm honestly surprised this has gotten as far as it has.[/quote]Luck is also an attribute. You should treasure it. The first and most important attribute for GMs in my opinion to be active and attentive to the players. And that's something practically everything with time can do. But yeah, I am afraid lecturing is a bad habit of mine and independent of language barrier.:lol [quote]I'm trying to keep everything in order here and not have to extend the NS skeleton to add ships so you can have bathtub wars while everyone else has something else they have to fill out which they may not be interested in. I'm not going to pander to a few people's "creative freedom" while giving everyone else additional work. Am I doing something wrong here? No doubt I am doing something wrong in some people's eyes but again this is my RP at the end of the day. You have no obligation to be in it if you find my GMing style to be against your wishes.[/quote]I am trying to help while also indeed pushing my dirty-dirty agenda. Like all people do. I try to have fun with everyone but at the same time I feel flabbergasted with your overreaction which, along with this bad habit of lecturing, is why I am having this, say, argument with you. If I am bothering you too much I just stop. The least I want to ruin the fun for others. Still, given my above points I would be indeed glad if you could at least consider my suggestion.